Sossick Super Exclusive! ‘Nobody Believed in Me Like Dagrin’

By Osagie Alonge, Chief Correspondent

20 months after the tragic passing of his friend and collaborator, producer Sossick sits with Nigerian Entertainment Today, in this absolutely revealing interview, to speak about his career,  family, and relationship with Dagrin who passed in April 2010. 

What have you been up to?

Okay, since last two weeks I’ve been making music…I thought I was going to be on a break, but music keeps calling me. I’ve been working on my own album, trying to put finishing touches. And also been working with other artistes, people like Jesse Jagz, people like D’Prince, just touching up stuff here and there.

Your forthcoming album, what’s it all about? What’s the name of the album, tentatively?

Tentatively, I like that word. We’re looking at ‘Classick’…’Class’ and ‘Sick’…you know it’s different. I’m trying to put out something different. I’m tired of hearing the same old thing. People are not bringing anything new to the table. That’s basically my trademark ‘Sick’…always bringing something new to the table. That’s exactly what I want to do with the album

Cool. Let’s go way way way back…

Ok

When did you realize that ok, ‘I love music more than just listening to music, there’s something wrong with me? I think I can now make music and I’m different from everyone else’?

You know, it dates back to as early as my primary school days. My sister and I, my younger sis….

What’s her name?

Her name is Precious. Of course, we had brothers then who were also….The house was filled with music. You know we were always singing and at some point we started making up our own songs as early as being in primary school. You know, my sister would say ‘this is what she wrote’ and I’d be like ‘this is what I came up with’. So we just sing to entertain mumsy and popsy and our brothers had tried some songs. You know they took it seriously. It was very natural. You know I used to be Gino’s beat box back in the day. You know he raps, I’ll give him the beat…beat boxing. So you know it was like a one way issue all the way man. The office thing didn’t really sink. It was always music.

Which primary and secondary school did you attend?

Primary school was in St. Pauls in Ilupeju and secondary school was in St. Francis in Idimu

Where did you grow up?

I was born in Lagos, I grew up in Lagos. You know…around Ilupeju that’s where everything started. All the way till we moved closer to Isolo. But basically I grew up in Ilupeju, Isolo kind of shaped me. I be Lagos boy. laughs

How much did your parents influence your love for music? 

Urm, my pops you know. We kind of grew up in a divided home. Mum broke away when we were young. I was like 9 or 8 when she left. So we grew up with pops, all of us.

Did dad have time for you guys?

Yeah, fantastic dad man…you know couldn’t ask for any one else. He kind of supported. He kind of supported you know. He was a very funky man. He loved music as well. You know he was always dancing. He was cool. He never had any problems with us. But mum on the other hand, it was hard man. You had to go to school. You had to finish school.  Laughs. She wanted all her babies to go to school. I also finished from YABATECH…HND Surveying and Geo Informatics.

When did you finish secondary school?

I finished secondary school …2000…no, 99!

Cool, cool

I was making music then already. Laughs

Who was the first guy, before we go to that, what was the first instrument you ever learnt how to play.

My mum bought me Shekere..laughs. One time like that. You know it’s like playing the drums. And you know those beads. You can combine. Besides the conga, you know I like to play the konga as well…then I did a bit of the guitar, it didn’t really work out cos I was jumping up and down. And then now the keyboard just for production sake. None of them were professional professional basics. It was just what I need.

You didn’t actually train for them?

Nah, nah..none of them.

What was the first ever instrumental you played yourself?

I remember the first beat I made; it was in a living room. I had a PC set up there. On a Sunday morning…

Probably a Pentium 2?

Yeah, exactly…a P2 and I was there in the living room. Sunday morning everybody went to church.  Before then I used to go chill out with my boys. They used to make beats. I used to rap.

So you started rapping before making beats?

Yeah , rapping and singing. I was always rapping and singing. They take us to the studio. I just watched them make beats and all of that…

Who?

Seun Ashaka…you know they called him Grumpy Dude. Basically I’d go over to his place, he plays a beat. I’d rap and ask one or two questions on how to use the software. Cos I had stuff in my head man you know. So when I got my setup, he gave me the software, I installed. Laughs And that Sunday morning I made one very slow RnB beat. I think I played it from morning till night, and even the neighbors were like ‘yo what’s that sound?’ laughs. I was just high off the song. Like ‘yo, I made a beat’. From there, no looking back…no turning back. All the way man..you know, beats, singing, rapping.

You come from a very talented family.  Apart from yourself, I mean you have two brothers that are very prominent in the industry. We have Owen Gee who’s one of the best stand up comics and we have Gino, who’s a rapper. ..

Yeah…

How many of you are in the family?

We have four kids. Then my pops you know. There’s Owen Gee, there’s Gino, there’s me, then there’s my sis, Precious. And that’s it, three of us. Precious sings well, but never wanted to do it professionally.

They influenced you?

Especially Gino…Gino would take me everywhere. You know what I’m saying. He was a bad guy in the house. Laughs  You feel me? He did all the bad bad things. And I was always there you know, giving him inspiration, support.

So fast forward to the time you started making good music. Who was the first prominent person you made a beat for?

I would say Gino now

Okay

But before then I used to make beats for boys in the hood. I used to make beats for guys that were around the hood. For you know..

How much did you use to make beats?

I used to make beats for N1,500

How much do you make beats now?

Multiply that by a 100. Laughs  or more! 200, 150… that kind of range. Then it was for 1,500 and I was happy and I was good.

It was more about the music thing, right?

It’s still about that. Laughs

Are you sure?

We just mange it better now, you know. Then Morachi, Laylow we used hang out, make stuff, you know.  Even read.

‘No Be God’ was a huge hit. How did that affect you? Did it get to you? I mean all of the shine was on Gino. Did you at any point feel jealous? I think you appeared in his video wearing a blue shirt? That was you?

Yeah, that was me though. Laughs

So when all the shine was on Gino, how did you see that?

I was very happy for him then, you know I’m not the outgoing type.  We just liked the song. We just did what we wanted to do against all odds…people discouraged us. And then it brought that kind of attention. You know, I never wanted to be like in the limelight. I was always okay being in the background. You know, Gino would go out and all the girls would be on him, and they’ll be like ‘yo, yo, are you not coming?’ It was 20 hours for me in the studio.  There was no time. Everyday, everyday! I wake up in the studio, I sleep in the studio, and I ate in the studio.

Where was your studio? And where’s it now?

It was around Isolo then, still around Isolo. But different, different cribs, different place. But still in the same zone, same hood.

You happened to produce all the tracks on ‘Pain Plus Work’?

Urm, not necessarily yeah, but you can say I produced about what…probably didn’t produce two, which I co-produced. The other 18, I made them myself.

When you made those beats? ‘No Be God’, then ‘Pain Plus Work’ dropped. Your name blew up…

Yeah, sort of….

How did you ride on that? Your craze was it getting up?

Yeah, but after the album I took a break. Laughs. You know I felt sick after the album. It was mad work! You know you 20 hours a day for a whole year.

It’s Crazy

I just broke down. I mean I broke down for three months. I was in the hospital, I was just there…

Wow

You know, yeah, that was a long break, so I didn’t want to rush back into it. So I took time off. It took me a while to get back into the studio

So what brought you back into the studio? After ‘No Be God’ dropped, the video was huge. But at the same time ‘Pain Plus Work’ dropped, I think a couple of other albums dropped and the album didn’t really hit the mark people were expecting it to…

Yeah, there was no awareness like that

So did you guys feel bad?

Yeah, of course it did. We got paid though.

How much?

Laughs. I don’t know. So my own was just, ‘yo, just move the album’. I didn’t even really want the money. The album was that kind of album that didn’t really get hype of promo cos Gino probably had some other stuff he was doing on the side. Cos you know the music wasn’t like his major source of income. So you know, he didn’t really push for it. But somehow, things got small attention. I got some attention. As soon as I got better. I didn’t want to rush into it. I kept making music in-house. So constantly I was hyping up beats and stuff. So when people came calling, I had stuff already. I had to play you know.

So you were producing for the likes of Dipp…

Yeah…

Who else?

Shank

You did ‘Julie’?

Yeah I did ‘Julie’

Who were the prominent people at that time you made beats for?

I’ll say Sanchez…the ‘Pick It Up’ guy. Shank, Nyore, urm Muma Gee was very prominent.

‘Kade’?

I think most of her stuff, not ‘Kade’. She did ‘Kade’ before I met her. Hmm, Rugged, I think…

So we all heard ‘Pon Pon Pon’ and we’re like ‘Sossick is bad’…

Laughs

You know, you and Dagrin must have gone a long way. When people think about Dagrin, the name Sossick always comes up. If they’re going to do a film, which they’ve already done, or if you’re going write a book on Dagrin, the name Sossick will always pop up in every page

Wow

 Or almost every page, or maybe when we get to page number twenty something. How was your relationship with Dagrin? How did you guys meet?

Before I even met him yeah, Gino used to tell me about this guy. Gino used to be like; ‘yo, there is dude that raps in Yoruba. And I was like yo, ‘I know a couple of Nigerian artistes that want to spit in pidgin. He said, ‘No, this guy is in Yoruba. He’s wicked, he’s that bad’. Gino was actually the one that made me pay attention to him. Gino said, ‘yo he has punchlines’. That was when he did his first single, his rap anthem…’toba fe rap loma rap ma rap…” yeah that one! And the one he shot a video for at Eko wale. You know, I never actually met him but Gino already knew about him. After the ‘Pain Plus Work’ album, I was in YabaTech then, you know what I’m saying… I think it was on one Monday morning, I got a call from someone saying; ‘yo it’s Dagrin’. Laughs.  I was like; ‘yo, how far now? I’m good…where are you now?’…I was like ‘I’m in school’. And he was like; ‘we gat’s see o’….’there’s no way I can see you now, I’m in school. He was like ‘he doesn’t care, he’ll come any where’. And I was like ‘I’m in YabaTech, wanna come over? No yawa’. Like 30 minutes later, he was there, him and manager, Ibrahim Sati. I think he was signed on to Sati Records then. And urm, we hooked up at some eatery, some where around school. He was like ‘yo man, I’m feeling your work’ that was what he said. And I was like ‘yo man, I’m feeling your own work too, Gino’s feeling your work’. He was like ‘Wow, Gino? I have like 5 copies of Pain plus Work ‘that what was he said. And truly he really had five. He was like a fan, he was a real Gino fan and he was a fan of my own work too. I was like this guy is real…he knows what’s up! Not too many people actually knew good music back in the day. He actually impressed me you know. They wanted him to do his singles for his album. You know, he told me about the work. And I was like, ‘okay cool now’. Then we agreed on the price and all that. Then straight to work the next day. The first song we made, it was actually supposed to be…the first song we made was ‘Oti Gboro’. I made the beat then put a hook on it, and then I was like go write to this. So the next day when he came and he was spitting for me…I was like yo…you got that excitement now. Laughs. You know, straight in to the booth, it was sizzling fire, it was ‘on to the next one’ to me. The next trac; ‘Pon Pon Pon’ the beat was in the studio now.

So you made the beat before you met Dagrin?

Yep! Yep! But I just needed the right person to spit on it. I tried to shop it to a couple of my crew. I don’t know…I don’t know if Sauce Kid ever heard that beat, but I think his manager did, his manager heard it. You know a couple of people I can’t remember. You know popular people as well. Every body wanted me to do something like ‘Julie’ again.  They heard it, and they were like ‘cool, dope’. Give us something ‘Julie’. I’m like this is what’s next. You can’t give everybody…you know…can you sing like Shank? You get what I’m saying? I’m like this is what’s next man, but they didn’t see it. As soon as he came in, I was like yo man, take this stuff out. Laughs. That’s the thing about him, he knows good stuff and we connect like that. If I tell him this stuff is dope, he sees it that way. And he was like ‘we gats record, this na my new single man’. You know we came up with the hook, we recorded the hook. From there he just wrote his bars. I recorded him, he burnt it on a CD, he took it away, he was mad excited. And he started calling me, ‘yo man they’re feeling it’. Before you know it, he’d cut the promo copies, and he pushed it! I helped him push it a bit, around my Zone in Yaba then. And people were….you know it had reviews. You know when I knew the song would be that big, was when I passing through Mushin to school and I actually heard it on one of those junction speakers. And I’m like for real? That was when I knew that it was going to be very very major.

How did you guys connect? You took the hook on ‘Ghetto Dreams’

Hmm, yeah!

‘Ghetto Dreams’ was one of the emotional, yet mind-provoking songs. How did you guys connect on ‘Ghetto Dream’? Who wrote the chorus? What happened? How did the song come about?

Of course, I wrote the chorus. Erm, I was supposed to travel one morning but you know something happened that morning and I couldn’t go. I was supposed to go to Benin…

Okay

Something just happened, it was raining and the mood was just messed up. And I was in the studio, I didn’t really plan. I just wanted to do something to express the way I was feeling. I didn’t want to do anything jumpy. I just started making it…as soon as I made it, I was singing the hook. I didn’t even write it, the hook just came. Sometimes it comes to me like that, you know. And I’m like yo, ‘all I have and all I’m doing is music’. But you know you can’t leave the game. You know what I’m saying, so it just came out like that. So I made the beat, put the hook on it. And we were just waiting for who was gonna rap on it.

So you didn’t even have Dagrin in mind for it?

No, I didn’t. You know Gino was supposed to…but Gino wasn’t recording then. But at the end of the day, I had people fighting for the spot oo! Every time I played the chorus, they’re like can I have the song?  ‘Yo, gimme this song!’ I was just waiting for the right person. I was like, ‘yo, I have this guy now’. So I played it for him…he started rapping…

Wow

Laughs. He started rapping you know, 16 bars! He just sounded very very perfect, and I was like ‘this is where I’m going to end it man, I’m not looking for anybody to spit on it again’. He was very emotional, he was pouring out his heart. And that was exactly what I need, so we just connected. And I’m like this is what I want. I don’t want no cosmetics, no made up stuff. I’m like ‘this is it man’. So we just put it out there, basically.

Okay, on a personal level how did you and Dagrin vibe? You know you guys look alike, a lot of people say it…

Laughs.

The last time during an award, when you came to pick up the award, I was looking on Twitter. People were like is that Dagrin’s brother?

Laughs

So how did you guys vibe on a personal level? I watched an interview where someone said he mistook Dagrin for you…

Yeah, that happened. He just called him and he said close the gate, not until he came to meet me and said ‘Baba how far?’ Laughs. Even my father has mistaken me too. We were really doing things together, even some things I can’t say, you know what I’m saying. Laughs.  Every single thing o…from we eat together, slept together, on the same bed. We were that close. No homo. But everything, everything!

I understand, I understand!

Laughs

When Dagrin finally blew…’Pon Pon Pon’ was every where. It was big in Nigeria and outside Nigeria.

Yeah…

You know, it was ‘Sossick on the beat, you know it was a hit man’.

Laughs

You finally got that recognition, you finally got that power. People knew the name. How did it feel? You must have been getting mad calls?

When I did it for him, it wasn’t about the money. I didn’t have money on my mind; I just wanted to make history with this guy. But he believed in me. I could produce a beat and he’ll be like yep, Sossick said it’s dope. And he’ll pour out his heart. He didn’t feel comfortable recording outside without telling me. He had that much faith in me. So when he blew, I was happy that, finally my work has paid off. Considering the fact that I didn’t choose to blend or be something else. A couple of people would have probably changed. So you know, I was so satisfied man!

Okay, the album dropped and Dagrin was probably having shows every week, so he wouldn’t have probably had time to be coming to the studio. He’ll probably call you and be like ‘Sossick I no fit come o, I get this show and gats do am’. You know how much did it affect your relationship with Dagrin?

Yeah, it restrained it a bit; you know what I’m saying. I wanted to keep making music. I wanted us to keep making music and start walking on the next album. I just wanted him to sit down, and like yo let’s keep walking. But erm, the business people came in…

Things changed?

Hmmm. You take him on tour, they book him for shows. He doesn’t even sleep, he doesn’t even rest. He almost didn’t have a life again. It was just too much.

Too much pressure?

Too much pressure, you know he was always on the road. Day, night! I always wanted him to come and chill. But he didn’t really have that time. It wasn’t really something I was happy about. You know what I’m saying. Of course he was picking my calls. Occasionally he would just drive by and let us know what’s happening. We were planning that second album. He was like ‘yo man, how we go take do this second album before them say I no fit do this album again, I just dey reason am’. Second album was going to be dope that it will make the first album look like crap. I was that confident.

When did you hear Dagrin was dead?

Same day now. Like a couple of minutes after he died.

Who called you?

It was somebody from the hospital, Onamus, his P.A. He was right there! Cos I saw him before…

Before his death, when last did you see him?

Besides in the hospital…urm he was supposed to come to my place on the day he had an accident. Yeah, we were supposed to hook up, cos we were already shooting a video for ‘Ghetto Dreams’

Who was the director?

It was Gini, the same guy…we were supposed to hook up on that day, and it was on a Tuesday. It was that morning I got a call…I think it was in the night he had an accident. But before then we were on the phone, even a day before. Cos we were supposed to shoot a video the next week for ‘Jo oor’. So we had a lot that we were supposed to do, you know! Sigh

So when you heard Dagrin’s car had crashed, how did you feel?

At first, when I called someone, ‘yo I heard he’s in the hospital’ He was like ‘Ah, don’t worry, it’s minor, don’t worry about it man’. They tried to hide to from me.

Did you go the hospital?

They were like, ‘no need, don’t bother, he’ll be out of here in a bit. It was in the morning. No worry, we go see for house’. So I was relieved you know what I’m saying. So I was like ‘wow, I should thank God o’. Then some other person that actually saw the car called and were like ‘yo, do you know Dagrin had an accident’? I was like it just something minor. They were like ‘Minor ke? Are you sure? Wetin we dey see for here no be minor’ Then I’m like hold on, let me call somebody. Then I called the hospital again, I called someone again. Then they said, ‘Soss man it’s not really minor, didn’t know how to break this to you man, but you’ll see you’ll probably be scared, but just try and be strong when you see him. I didn’t know what to expect. I went that afternoon, and yo, wow! Pause. I can’t really explain again, but he just didn’t look like the same person I actually knew. He was like someone else. I didn’t see him as someone I knew. There were no scars on his body like that. No major wound, but his head wrapped, tapped…

Bandaged?

Yeah, bandaged you know. He didn’t recognize anybody. He was just there, stale! And I hadn’t seen anything like that before. You know he looked at you and tried to reach you, but he doesn’t know you. But somehow, I thought. You know his body is in good shape. So let me just give him time. So I was actually hopeful and optimistic. But I didn’t know how bad it was. As in the damage that has been done already. You know it was just crazy. They didn’t even respond the way they were supposed to respond. I mean the hospital. You know they were taking pictures of him. Stuff like that. So when I went back to the hospital to see him. He was basically the same, but then they would say he’s improving. We were just giving ourselves hope, like okay, yes! He’s improving. But deep down, I was sure he was not just that same person. There was this feeling; it was just a very dark feeling. It was just messed up. We were hoping to see him improve or get better. It got to a point I didn’t just know what to do again.  It was on one of those visits, after I left, you know I was still somewhere around Yaba. I got a call and they said ‘yo’ and that was right after they said ‘yo, he’s getting better, at the hospital, he’s improving…

It was the doctor that was saying that?

Yeah, he’s getting better. Everybody was trying to smile. Only for them to call later that night, ‘yo he’s gone!’ I’m like ‘wow’. Gone ke? How na? They said he was getting better. I’m like ‘for real’? How? I didn’t really understand it sha. I went there straight away. Already there were people there. People were crying and…because I didn’t know if it was true or not. I didn’t want to believe it. So you know getting there it was already…You know! I didn’t know if I should cry or try to see if we can still do something. I wasn’t stable, so I didn’t really want to accept, because crying would mean accepting the fact that he’s gone. I wanted to be optimistic we’ll do something…something will happen! Maybe take his body to the church and pray. I was just hoping for one of those miracles. Obviously I still cried but I was still hoping, not until they were going to bury him. After a while, I was like there’s no miracle here, this guy has gone. That was when I actually started seeing like; you know you guys will never see this guy again? I feel heavy whenever I think of it.

Because you were like the closest person to him

Hmm, you know he wanted to protect me from stuff. He always looked out for me. He always warned me about people. He just always looked out for me. It was beyond music. Sometimes we had our differences. He had his faults, I had mine. You know nobody believed in me like that guy.

So after his death, did you go back to music?

I took a break of course. I took another break. For a while I wasn’t making music. You’d be wondering like, what are you even struggling for? What’s it all about sef? Then it takes strength from God to bring you back to that point where you can actually make music again. Then you have all these people that want to rap like him coming to you. A million and one people

Oh you got people like that?

As in a million people. You know everyone is coming to Sossick. Yo I rap in Yoruba like Dagrin. You know I rap in Yoruba just like CEO, so Sossick you know I’m next. I wasn’t even interested. I just wanted to move away from that and do something else.

So you dropped your own single ‘I Get It’?

Yeah, I haven’t dropped the video yet. But then I dropped the audio then. It wasn’t really like a major release. It was like a sneak preview. ‘I Get it’ here. A lot of people were like Dagrin would have been nice on this one oo! He’s not on this. It’s just me and music. He likes my music. It was just unto the next. Like trying to release it was just life. You can’t escape it. You have to make the best of the moment you have. Try to make an impact so you can live forever. You know you can’t live forever but your works can live forever. That’s how to be legendary.

A couple of months ago we heard a Dagrin movie was running, the name of the movie is ‘Ghetto Dreams’. You know we saw the movie, but we didn’t see Sossick in the movie.

Yeah

You know it had people like Jaywon, Kenny St. Brown, you didn’t play Sossick, fine…

I didn’t even know, was there a Sossick in the movie?

I’m not sure

I don’t know. Laughs

But did you have a hand in the movie?

No, no, at all!

 Were you approached about the movie?

I was approached in the closing stage of the movie.

So the part of your story with Dagrin; did they ever approach you to ask you your own side of the story?  How you met Dagrin, the things Dagrin did when he was recording?

No, no, no! At all! Nobody asked me for my own story. They just asked me, ‘yo what’s up? Can you come?’ They were already making the movie. You know they almost done. Then they approached me, they approached YQ. Do you guys think you can play roles in this movie? I’m like, ‘wow, for real?’. We’ll give you guys 50-50k! Laughs.  They said we’ll you guys 50-50grand, I was like, ‘oh, for real?’ I’m like, ‘wow, wow, okay’ I’m like ‘you know what eh, I’ll reach you guys’. You know what I’m saying, because I wasn’t even down with the whole thing. ‘Don’t worry, it’ll be fine, I’ll reach you…’ They kept calling and calling. Then the guy himself now called me one day.

Ope Banwo?

I don’t even know his name. The guy was like, ‘what’s up? How far?’  I was like ‘cool’. Then we got talking. I was like, ‘this movie, how did you guys even get your story?’ He said, ‘We talked to one or two people’  I was like, ‘did you talk to other ones?’ He said ‘No’. I was like did you talk to Dele? Then he was like, ‘yo, listen man, I don’t care if my stories are real or not, I’m a movie maker, I’ll put fiction if I have to man, I don’t care I just want to make my own movie, I don’t really need you guys, I just called you guys because I just want to call you guys. I don’t really need you guys, I don’t care there’s nothing you guys can do about it’. I was like, ‘Good luck, bye bye!’ You know, that was it! So I didn’t…

Wow..

That was it, that was it for me ja re! My conscience was telling me, it’s even too early to be making movies. It’s too early man! If you want to make a movie about somebody like that, you have to plan. You have to make sure it’s grand. Not the same home-video quality. You have to put in a lot into it. Give it time, and don’t try to wrap it up sharp sharp! So I was like, ‘Good luck guys, no yawa! But me, I don’t want to do this’

My last question on Dagrin…I’m sure you still have a lot of Dagrin songs in your hard drive, recorded

Erm, not necessarily! Funny enough oo! He didn’t get the chance to, the time to. You know we had his album planned out already. The beats, the hooks! Just for him to come and record his verse, that was it.

I heard his record label talking about dropping another album ‘The Reproach’

That was actually supposed to be the title of his next album that we were supposed to work on. We didn’t really get to work on the album. So I don’t know what they wanted to drop. That’s their own thing. It was like a record label, it was like a management company.

So back to Sossick now, ‘Classick Tune’…

Hmmm,

Is that the name of your record label?

Yeah, recording outfit

Who owns Classick Tunes?

Esossa Douglas, that’s me! You know what I’m saying. I run it myself.

Does any of your brothers own shares in the company, Gino? Owen Gee?

Hmm, not necessarily! It’s like my own baby, my own pet project.

So you have a new single out, ‘Jo or’, the video is now out. You know it’s doing well. What’s next for Sossick?

Urm, we’ll turn it up a notch. A couple more singles, you know. Music videos! A video drops really soon, a week or more! Dropping a single with D’Prince (Omooba) in a couple of days I’m sure. The album is basically a wrap! You know what I’m saying except I might want to go back and touch some things.

What will you be calling the album?

Tentatively, ‘Classick’

You’re going to rap or sing on the album?

I’m going to rap and sing, you know what I’m saying

Do you fancy award? You received a couple of awards?

Yeah

Which one?

We got the NMVA back in the day, ‘Best Rap Song’. Then we got the Future award as well.

How do fancy awards? You like them?

Laughs. I’ve been there, I’ve done that. Unto the next one

So what’s the next one?

Probably ‘album of year’, ‘best rap song’,

You want to be seen as more of a producer and artist?

Toe to toe man, I go with the best.

Name a couple of producers you’re feeling

I’m feeling Sarz, he’s a sick boy. You know he’s a friend as well. We go way back o, he used to play his stuff for me then. Laughs. I like Laylow, of course we also go way back. Then also, Don Jazzy of course. He has his own genre locked down. He’s evolving too, I like that about him. Frabz, Jay Sleek..those are guys that are doing very good.

You’ve produced for like almost everybody?

Ahh..

Naeto C, Sasha. You’ve worked with Pype, YQ…

Ruggedman, Ice Prince

Name three artistes you haven’t worked with that you really want to work with

Number one,  2face…

Sound Sultan?

Sound Sultan!! I’m a fan, I’m a fan, yeah! You know then also Weird MC, I actually want to be the one that would do a song for her to bring her back. You know what I mean, ‘Ijo Ya’, I want to bring her back. I’m challenging myself. I don’t like easy stuff. I like to challenge myself.

Are you single?

Yeah, I’m single. Anybody I get now should be able to ride with me

‘Ride With Me’, like get married?

Of course that’s what it will lead to now. Laughs. You know ride with me, in the game, support me. Make me feel good about my music and my stuff.